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Decoder is a show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.
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He changed outdoor cooking forever — then took over Weber
Jun 29, 2026
It’s time for our annual Fourth of July grill episode here at Decoder, which is when we invite the CEOs of outdoor cooking companies onto the show to explain just how their businesses kind of look…
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Rewind: CEO Jim Farley on Ford's EV gamble
Jun 25, 2026
Hey everyone, Nilay here. You might remember I took a break from Decoder last year — we had a baby, so I took some leave. In my place, we had an excellent slate of guest hosts, and we’ve been working…
Can Patreon fight fire with social media fire?
Jun 22, 2026
A lot has changed on the internet, in the creator landscape, and at Patreon itself since CEO Jack Conte was last on the show in 2021. AI and platform shifts have stolen creator content and decimated…
Who decides when AI is too dangerous?
Jun 18, 2026
My guest today is Hayden Field, senior AI reporter for The Verge. Often when Hayden comes on the show, it’s because something has gone wrong in the world of AI. Last weekend, that something was a…
Skydio CEO argues more drones will make us safer
Jun 15, 2026
Today, I’m talking with Slydio CEO Adam Bry, who runs the leading US maker of autonomous drones. We covered a lot in this conversation, including Skydio’s police and government work at a time when…
Condé Nast CEO Roger Lynch on AI, the Met Gala & his secret succession plan
Jun 11, 2026
Hey! Nilay here. It’s conference season, so I’m traveling across the country and around the world a lot more than usual. Stay tuned for some very special Decoder episodes we have coming up soon…
Microsoft AI chief thinks superintelligence is near, but won't take your job
Jun 08, 2026
Today I’m talking with Mustafa Suleyman, the CEO of Microsoft AI. This is a real burner of an episode. We covered everything from his approach to training new models to his criticisms of Anthropic…
Elon Musk is steamrolling Wall Street to become a trillionaire
Jun 04, 2026
My guest today is Ryan Mac, a technology reporter at The New York Times and co-author of the excellent book Character Limit: How Elon Musk Destroyed Twitter, which came out in 2024. I wanted to have…
AI is blowing up music. How should the Grammys handle it?
Jun 01, 2026
I last talked to Recording Academy CEO Harvey Mason Jr in 2024 — when it was obvious that generative AI would upend the music industry, but not exactly clear how that would happen.
Now, Harvey says…
Rivian's software chief thinks you don't need CarPlay or buttons
May 28, 2026
Today, I’m talking with Wassym Bensaid, the chief software officer at Rivian, and the co-ceo of Rivian’s platform joint venture with Volkswagen. That joint venture, called RV Tech, is about a year…
How Sundar Pichai is rethinking Google for the AI era
May 26, 2026
Connecting with Google CEO Sundar Pichai at I/O every year is one of my favorite Decoder traditions. This was our fifth year doing it, and there’s always a whole slew of new things to talk…
Musk v Altman: Much ado about nothing
May 21, 2026
Musk v Altman was nominally about OpenAI's conversion to a for-profit entity, and how it went about that change. But really, the suit seems mostly to have been about Elon Musk being mad at Sam Altman…
Exclusive: Jonah Peretti explains why he sold BuzzFeed
May 18, 2026
Just days before we spoke, BuzzFeed co-founder and CEO Jonah Peretti agreed to sell the company, which was losing money and at risk of shutting down. Now there’s a new lease on life — and new…
How companies weaponize the terms of service against you
May 14, 2026
Brendan Ballou is founder of the Public Integrity Project and author of the new book, When Companies Run the Courts, about the rise of forced arbitration.
Forced arbitration is similarly everywhere…
Joanna Stern is not a robot, but she lived with them
May 11, 2026
My guest today is longtime friend of the show Joanna Stern. You all know Joanna: she is the former senior personal technology columnist for The Wall Street Journal, a former Decoder guest host, one…
Rewind: How AI is fueling an existential crisis in education
May 07, 2026
Hey, everyone, Nilay here. We’re off today, while the team and I are cooking on a lot of really great stuff in the coming weeks. We’ll be back with an all-new interview on Monday.
In the meantime…
Dara Khosrowshahi on replacing Uber drivers — and himself — with AI
May 04, 2026
It’s become an annual tradition to have Uber CEO Dara Khosrowshahi join us in the studio when he comes to New York for Uber’s big Go-Get event every year. This year, the big news was that Uber's…
How to win — or lose — Decoder
Apr 30, 2026
This is Nick Statt, senior producer on Decoder. We last ran a mailbag episode during the holidays, and we decided it was a good idea to do that kind of thing more often. So we’re back with Nilay as…
That UL safety logo is a lot more complicated than it looks
Apr 27, 2026
Jennifer Scanlon is CEO of UL Solutions, one of those hidden-in-plain-sight companies we like to poke at here on Decoder. UL's been around for more than 100 years; it started as a way for insurance…
THE PEOPLE DO NOT YEARN FOR AUTOMATION
Apr 23, 2026
Today on Decoder, I want to lay out an idea that's been banging around my head for weeks now as we've been reporting on AI and having conversations here on this show. I've been calling it software…
Canva's CEO on its big pivot to AI enterprise software
Apr 20, 2026
The last time Canva CEO Melanie Perkins was on Decoder, the company was starting a big push into enterprise. Now, she's leading it through a total reinvention, going, in Canva's words, "from a design…
Ronan Farrow on Sam Altman's "unconstrained" relationship with the truth
Apr 16, 2026
Today I’m talking with Ronan Farrow, one of the biggest stars of investigative reporting working today. He broke the Harvey Weinstein story, among many, many others.
Just last week, he and…
Can Puck’s CEO reinvent the news business for the influencer age?
Apr 13, 2026
Sarah Personette is the CEO of Puck, a media company that's been around for about five years. Puck hires big star reporters who write newsletters as part of a subscription bundle. Those newsletters…
The AI industry's existential race for profits
Apr 09, 2026
Today, let’s talk about the looming AI monetization cliff, and whether some of the biggest companies in space can become real, profitable businesses before they careen right off it.
My guest today…
Cisco CEO Chuck Robbins wants data centers in space
Apr 06, 2026
My guest today is Cisco CEO Chuck Robbins. Cisco is one of those big companies that everyone has heard of but most of us don’t have to interact with very much; they’re not really a consumer brand…
A jury says Meta and Google hurt a kid. What now?
Apr 02, 2026
Today, we’re talking about the landmark social media addiction trials that just resulted in two major verdicts against Big Tech — one in California against Meta and Google, and another in New Mexico…
Okta's CEO is betting big on AI agent identity
Mar 30, 2026
My guest today is Okta CEO Todd McKinnon. Okta is a platform that big companies use to manage security and identity across all the many apps and platforms their employees use. Most of us run into it…
Everyone hates Ticketmaster. Why'd Trump go easy on them?
Mar 26, 2026
Today, we’re talking about the major antitrust lawsuit against Ticketmaster parent company Live Nation, and what it might mean for antitrust and competition law in general now that the Trump DOJ has…
Confronting the CEO of the AI company that impersonated me
Mar 23, 2026
Today, I’m talking with Shishir Mehrotra, the CEO of Superhuman, the company formerly known as Grammarly, which is still its flagship product. Back in August, Grammarly shipped a feature called…
Paramount's $110 billion Warner Bros. gamble
Mar 19, 2026
Today, let’s talk about the big Paramount-Warner Bros. Discovery merger. Right now, Paramount head David Ellison is very much acting like he’s over the finish line after outbidding Netflix, which…